Time flies, but how exciting to begin taking part in blogathons for the second year! For The Great Villain Blogathon 2015 (organized by Speakeasy, Silver Screenings, and Shadows and Satin), I happily wrote about a new obsession with the villain roles played by a young Richard Widmark.
This year, I’m going for something a bit more complex…and displeasing. My subject is Barbara Stanwyck, as an onscreen femme fatale and an offscreen reactionary. I recently learned about the political side of Stanwyck from an episode of the podcast You Must Remember This, entitled “The Strange Love of Barbara Stanwyck.” (I highly recommend every episode of this podcast; it’s amazing, well-presented backstory for the classic film fan.)
If you enjoy noir, you enjoy Barbara Stanwyck. They’re inseparable in many ways, for the actress played perhaps the most famous femme fatale in all of noir, Phyllis Dietrichson in Double Indemnity (1944): she of the anklet, the cheesy blonde wig, and the icy disposition. Two years later, Stanwyck played a more complex but equally lethal kind of evil in The Love of Martha Ivers (1946) as well as The File on Thelma Jordon (1950). One can even call her sexually charged “heroine” in the pre-Code comedy Baby Face (1933) a precursor to her later villainous roles.
Stanwyck would flesh out her many appearances in noir with roles both morally ambiguous and sympathetic, including discontented and ill-fated wives in The Two Mrs. Carrolls (1947), Sorry Wrong Number (1948), Clash By Night (1952), and Witness to Murder (1954), a struggling single mother who takes on a dead woman’s identity in No Man of Her Own (1950), and a wife who promises a murderer anything if he’ll help save her husband’s life in Jeopardy (1953). Later in the 50s, she even plays an iron-fist rancher with femme fatale overtones in Samuel Fuller’s Western Forty Guns (1957).
There have been no films I can name in which I haven’t enjoyed Stanwyck — Ball of Fire (1941) is my favorite of all screwball comedies. But I especially enjoy Stanwyck playing villains, even when they’re comic, such as the emotional torment Jean/Eve puts Henry Fonda’s Charles “Hopsy” Pike through in The Lady Eve (1941).
My love of Stanwyck, however, has recently been marred — or complicated in the messiest of ways, at least — by what I see in retrospect as her abominable politics. Teamed with her reactionary husband Robert Taylor (one of the only individuals in Hollywood to not only name names when called to testify before the House UnAmerican Activities Committee (HUAC) but to declare he wanted to see all those in Hollywood with communist sympathies “sent back to Russia”), Stanwyck was one of the most conservative women in Hollywood.
She opposed the presidency of FDR, holistically. She believed in the right wing “bootstraps” approach to success, for if she could overcome her difficult childhood, others should be able to do the same, without any assistance. She joined the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals (MPA) early, sharing its goals of monitoring Hollywood films to combat “subversive” methods and images. She publicly supported HUAC, testifying as a friendly witness.
Of course, it is easy to condemn her perspective in retrospect, especially because it seems Stanwyck was responding out of having been orphaned at the age of four and raised in foster homes, and her success in Hollywood led to her becoming the highest-paid woman in the US in 1944. Unhappy childhoods and massive wealth can make for a bad combination, especially when one then marries an even more reactionary man — or at least one more vocal about it.
Stanwyck was no more a villain during the era than other similarly conservative stars, including her co-stars Gary Cooper and Fred MacMurray, as well as women such as Ginger Rogers. Still, as we think about how blacklisting destroyed lives — and even helped to end them, as it seems in the case of noir great John Garfield — it behooves us to look, now and then, not only on screen but behind it as well.
May 14, 2016 at 9:09 PM
A splendid please, Salome, and refreshing in its frankness. As you say, everything must be judged in context — we all of us do things that seemed justified at the time but with hindsight are obviously stupid or even vile — but I too have had my difficulties in matching my feelings for Stanwyck as an actress with my feelings for Stanwyck as a human being. I suppose one could draw out the “hoodwinked by a powerful demagogue” excuse yet again, but . . .
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May 14, 2016 at 9:28 PM
The more I know, the less I like so many celebrities. Love so many of Woody Allen’s films, for example…
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May 14, 2016 at 11:46 PM
On the subject of Woody Allen, I think this article is worth a read: it seems to me to offer a balanced view.
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May 15, 2016 at 4:36 AM
Excellent article.
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May 14, 2016 at 11:45 PM
Opps! “A splendid please” shoulsd of course be “A splendid piece”!
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May 14, 2016 at 11:47 PM
Jeez, I’m not having a good night, am I? “Opps” should be “Oops” . . .
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May 14, 2016 at 9:13 PM
i was startled to hear about her politics too, but she is still an amazing actress…and it was a different era. i love, love, i do mean *love* you must remember this podcasts!!!
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May 14, 2016 at 9:29 PM
She is indeed talented, and I’m glad we share appreciation for the podcast!
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May 15, 2016 at 2:25 PM
It’s interesting how in some cases, you can put the politics aside and still enjoy the artist, and sometimes you can’t. For Stanywck, I’ve been able to ignore (but not forget) hers enough. But there are times I wish she had a little more of Myrna Loy in her:) Great article.
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May 15, 2016 at 4:00 PM
Thanks for the praise and the comment. Ginger Rogers threw me, too. I had not known just how right wing she was, and I haven’t watched her since… Bums me out. I wish many actors had more Kate Hepburn in them. 🙂
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May 15, 2016 at 4:05 PM
I didn’t realize Barbara Stanwyck was a real conservative, but given her tough childhood I can see how she would develop those views.
As for her villainous roles, there was hardly anyone better. I can’t think of a poor Stanwyck performance. She is wonderful to watch in each of her films.
Thanks for joining the blogathon, and for bringing Stanwyck to the party!
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May 15, 2016 at 8:02 PM
My pleasure!
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May 15, 2016 at 6:36 PM
Very interesting piece. I love her too and I agree with you about her politics. She’s still my second favourite actress, though. I guess we just have to look past it 🙂
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May 16, 2016 at 1:11 AM
Miss Stanwyck’s art is all that should matter – but my question is a more prosaic one. What is wrong with being: ‘right-wing’? It is those who belong to the other side who have brought this country, and its now vile cinema, to their present pass.
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May 16, 2016 at 2:58 AM
Suffice it to say that HUAC persecuted and prosecuted innocent people and Stanwyck supported their efforts. As for the rest, history doesn’t tend to vindicate the reactionary.
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May 16, 2016 at 3:14 AM
It is those who belong to the other side who have brought this country, and its now vile cinema, to their present pass.
What absolute nonsense you do talk.
[[long explanatory rant deleted]]
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May 16, 2016 at 12:06 PM
So are we implying with this post that Stanwyck was a villain in real life too? Did you use more than one source than “You Must Remember This” for your research? There are other sources that tell a different story that balances things out. Context and perspective is everything. And it isn’t fair to judge people who are gone and can’t defend themselves.
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May 16, 2016 at 3:39 PM
And it isn’t fair to judge people who are gone and can’t defend themselves.
So we should stop saying all those nasty things about Ted Bundy? Or Vlad Drakul? Or Senator Joe McCarthy?
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May 16, 2016 at 9:26 PM
Stanwyck and others are on a par with Ted Bundy? Vlad Drakul? Seriously? And what about those folks in Hollywood who contributed financially to the dictators who imprisoned, tortured and killed people? Does Hollywood bear any responsibility for that?
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May 16, 2016 at 9:33 PM
Stop creating straw men to attack — it is a dishonest debating technique.
To put it in plain English. You stated: “And it isn’t fair to judge people who are gone and can’t defend themselves.” I pointed out, through use of examples, that this is a bloody silly maxim.
And what about those folks in Hollywood who contributed financially to the dictators who imprisoned, tortured and killed people? Does Hollywood bear any responsibility for that?
Feel free to make that case, and offer examples. But I’ll guarantee you one thing. I’ll not offer “And it isn’t fair to judge people who are gone and can’t defend themselves” as a counterargument.
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May 16, 2016 at 11:04 PM
I don’t want to approve further posts from this individual if he won’t provide precise evidence and discussion. Thanks for keeping things above board.
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May 16, 2016 at 11:14 PM
I was worried I might overstep — glad you think I didn’t.
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May 16, 2016 at 3:49 PM
I have read similar material online. Please link to a source that might help me see what you mean.
Context is vital to everything, but so many stars did not fall prey to reactionary paranoia. Compare Stanwyck, Rogers, and Taylor to Katharine Hepburn, Melvyn Douglas, and Edward G. Robinson, for example.
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May 17, 2016 at 12:08 AM
I’m sorry you feel the way you do. You brought the subject up in your post and it was up to you to provide sourcing other than a podcast, in my opinion. But if I’m to now be blacklisted because I’ve questioned your lack of sourcing, so bit it. Be well, everyone.
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May 17, 2016 at 12:33 AM
Of course you’re not going to be “blacklisted,” despite that intentionally provocative note of self-pity. I don’t agree with you and am not sure what else you desire by arguing with me about my opinion.
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May 16, 2016 at 3:10 PM
One of my favorite actresses – her greatest villain role was as Phyliis, as you note, but my second favorite was as the tough-as-nails lesbian madam in Walk on the Wild Side…
Did not know about her political leanings, but even that can’t detract from this classy dame’s undeniable talent!
-Chris
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May 16, 2016 at 3:31 PM
I’ve never seen Walk on the Wild Side. I’ll take your recommendation and get to it!
Thanks for commenting 🙂
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May 16, 2016 at 6:22 PM
The whole question regarding a person who you admire troublesome politics and/or personality is something that I think about a lot. Because of course it does and doesn’t matter, it most occasions it doesn’t affect the integrity of the work and yet….But still if we were to throw away all the films, books, paintings etc that doesn’t accord and re-affirm our own beliefs and opinions I think that would be intolerance in another form. As you can see I have thought about it but I still haven’t come to a conclusion.
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May 16, 2016 at 6:22 PM
Just acknowledging the conflict is key, I think.
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May 16, 2016 at 6:30 PM
I dont know why I twist and turn with such abstractions but I do and still don’t choose a side.
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May 16, 2016 at 8:23 PM
I do too. Thinkers dilemma.
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May 16, 2016 at 10:25 PM
Thanks, guys, for letting me know I’m not alone in being conflicted over an actor ‘s personal life/politics and their performances. I adore Stanwyck, but wince at her politics. Also have a problem with Woody Allen. Great post !
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May 16, 2016 at 11:00 PM
Thanks for joining in and commenting. Glad you like the list.
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May 16, 2016 at 11:04 PM
Barbara Stanwyck remains one of my favorite actresses.She played in so many noirs as a villain role it really was a great talk about that here. great post
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May 16, 2016 at 11:09 PM
Many thanks. Glad you enjoyed the post!
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May 17, 2016 at 12:20 AM
I enjoyed your post! Very thought provoking and informative. I really enjoy Barbara Stanwyck in all her different roles. It’s too bad we can’t just sit down and chat with her. Some of her views may make more sense as she explained why she thinks the way she did.
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May 17, 2016 at 12:35 AM
Certainly it’s possible one-on-one to be less sweeping and more personal in perspective. I at least hope she eventually regretted her participation in HUAC hearings.
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May 17, 2016 at 1:48 AM
Thanks so much for offering up this interesting post for the blogathon! Good stuff.
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May 17, 2016 at 2:04 AM
My pleasure. Thanks for hosting!
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May 17, 2016 at 8:11 AM
It’s funny as I was reading your (excellent) piece I was thinking about how the less we know about ‘stars’, the better (Woody Allen, I’m looking at you). I’ve always advocated that creatives (actors, directors, musicians and more) in the public eye should be judged on talent alone, but when their politics seem so out of step with your own or popular moral compass, it’s impossible to view them solely through the lens of their achievements.
PS – thanks for flagging that podcast too, I needed something new to listen to!
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May 18, 2016 at 4:24 PM
You express well the conundrum of actors as fallible people. If you look up in the comments, you’ll see a link to a good article about Woody Allen suggested to me. Glad you enjoyed the post, and thanks for commenting!
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May 20, 2016 at 6:51 PM
A fantastic article! I don’t admire Barbara’s political views at all, and luckily I can separate the superb actress from the flawed reactionary. Who would imagine she had a bit of villainy in real life as well?
Don’t forget to read my contribution to the blogathon! 🙂
Cheers!
Le
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May 20, 2016 at 9:24 PM
I’m glad you can enjoy her even as you reject her politics.
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May 21, 2016 at 1:35 PM
Good piece on perhaps my favorite actress, thank you!
To add to the lively discussion and hopefully muddy the waters with some further context, Hepburn got into serious hot water after giving a speech for Henry Wallace, I think in 1947. The speech was a stemwinder, and she delivered it, uncharacteristically, in a dress, and a red dress at that. The Red Scare was ramping up, and the speech got her a lot of (bad) press. Did Hepburn stand up for her principles and face the accusers? Nope, she did the smart, self-preserving thing and flew under the radar as much as possible. That she was not called to testify at HUAC is amazing, and nobody knows how she avoided it. Possibly Adolphe Menjou, a big ally of HUAC, put in the fix for her. In any case, when John Huston offered her The African Queen a few years later she was smart enough to jump all over it—Huston and Bogart were also in bad odor with the HUAC crowd, and The African Queen was the film that would establish all three in the public imagination as patriotic Americans with impeccable credentials. Blowing up that German U boat was a great career move. And I’m not completely sure, but I think it’s possible that Hepburn henceforth avoided sticking her neck out politically.
It’s always a let-down when an artist we love turns out to be as complex and fallible as the rest of us. My grandmother grew up in poverty and in later life had that hard, “I did it, they should too” attitude about poverty. She supported Nixon, Reagan, Bush. It drove me nuts. Do I love her less because of it? Nah. But I avoided talking about politics like the plague.
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May 21, 2016 at 4:02 PM
Amen! Thanks for adding to the conversation!
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May 21, 2016 at 5:13 PM
Finally getting a chance to catch up with all the entries in this blogathon. Nice post.
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May 23, 2016 at 9:20 AM
I had no idea Stanwyck was so conservative. I can certainly see how this could change how you feel about her. The blacklisting was a terrible moment in Hollywood history. She’s one of my favorite actresses and mostly because she plays such tough, smart women so it is disappointing to learn how she was in real life. Great post!
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May 23, 2016 at 1:01 PM
I agree. And highest paid actress is no small feat. Thanks for reading and commenting.
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May 23, 2016 at 3:16 PM
Barbara Stanwyck is my all time favorite actress and some of her villainous roles are among my favorite films. Excellent article. You certainly done Stannyy justice.
Don’t forget to check out my contribution to the blogathon.
https://crystalkalyana.wordpress.com/2016/05/23/joan-crawford-versus-sydney-greenstreet-in-flamingo-road-1949-the-great-villain-blogathon/
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May 23, 2016 at 5:16 PM
Thanks for the praise. Glad you enjoyed.
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